The Second Morning Walk Recorded on April 19, 1973, in Cheviot Hills Park, Los Angeles.
Srila Prabhupada is accompained by Dr. Thoudam Damodara Singh, Karandhara dasa adhikari, Brahmananda Svami and other students.
SRILA PRABHUPADA: This material world is a composition of three qualities – sattva, rajas and tamas (goodness, passion and ignorance) – which are working everywhere. These three qualities are present in variour proportions in all species of life. For example, some trees produce nice fruits, while other are simply meant for fuel. This is due to the association of particular qualities of nature. Among animals also, these three qualities are present. The cow is in the quality of goodness, the lion in passion, and the monkey in ignorance. According to Darwin, Darwin’s father is a monkey. [Laughter.] He has theorized foolishly.
DR. SINGH: Darwin has said that some species become extinct in the struggle for survival. Those which are capable of surviving will survive, but those which are not will become extinct. So he says survival and extinction go side by side.
SRILA PRABHUPADA: Nothing is extinct. The monkey is not extinct. Darwin’s immediate forefather, the monkey, is still existing.
KARANDHARA: Darwin said there must be a natural selection. But selection means choice. So who is choosing?
SRILA PRABHUPADA: That must be a person. Who is allowing someone to survive and someone to be killed? There must be some authority with discretion to give such an order. That is our first proposition. Who that authority is, is explained in Bhagavad-gita, Krsna says, mayadhyaksena prakrtih: “Nature is working under My supervision.” [Bg. 9.10]
DR. SINGH: Darwin also says that the difference species were not created simultaneously, but evolved gradually.
SRILA PRABHUPADA: Then what is his explanation for how the process of evolution began?
KARANDHARA: Modern proponents of Darwinism say that the first living organism was created chemically.
SRILA PRABHUPADA: And I say to them, “If life originated from chemicals, and if your science is so advanced, then why can’t you create life biochemically in your laboratories?”
DR. SINGH: The problem with the world is that practically everyone is thinking only in terms of his own circumstances – and that is nonsense.
STUDENT: Someone who has never gone out of his village thinks that his village is the whole world.
SRILA PRABHUPADA: Yes. The frog is always thinking in terms relative to his well. He has no power to think otherwise. The ocean is great, but he is thinking of the ocean’s greatness in terms relative to his own greatness. Similarly, God is great, but we thinking of God in terms of relative greatness, greatness relative to our own. There are certain insects that are born at night, and they grow, bear offspring and die – all before daybreak. They never see the morning. So if they conclude that there is no morning, that is nonsense. In the same way, as soon as we hear from sastras [revealed scriptures] that Brahma’s duration of life is equivalent to millions of our years, we do not believe it. We say, “How can it be?” But Bhagavad-gita [8.17] says sahasra-yuga-paryantam ahar yad brahmano viduh: “Four billion three hundred million earth years equal Brahma’s twelve hours.” Even a leading Indian politician who was known as a great scholar of the Gita could not accept this information. He said it is mental speculation. Such a rascal! Yet he is passing as an important scholar. This is the problem. Rascals and fools are passing as scholars, scientists and philosophers, and therefore the whole world is being misguided.